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		<title>By: Marshal</title>
		<link>http://www.technollama.co.uk/there-aint-such-thing-as-privacy/comment-page-1#comment-3223</link>
		<dc:creator>Marshal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 20:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree. I don&#039;t think the problem is giving away our data. Is that&#039;s been used for something we haven&#039;t agree.

Another problem is when all the tools that the men of the Iphone story used, come together to create 1 awful and very powerful app.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree. I don&#8217;t think the problem is giving away our data. Is that&#8217;s been used for something we haven&#8217;t agree.</p>
<p>Another problem is when all the tools that the men of the Iphone story used, come together to create 1 awful and very powerful app.</p>
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		<title>By: Andres</title>
		<link>http://www.technollama.co.uk/there-aint-such-thing-as-privacy/comment-page-1#comment-3102</link>
		<dc:creator>Andres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 09:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thankfully, I don&#039;t own an iPhone :)

As for Facebook, I&#039;ve been thinking of going back, but if I do I will probably only use it to stay in touch with my family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankfully, I don&#8217;t own an iPhone <img src='http://www.technollama.co.uk/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As for Facebook, I&#8217;ve been thinking of going back, but if I do I will probably only use it to stay in touch with my family.</p>
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		<title>By: Austrotrabant</title>
		<link>http://www.technollama.co.uk/there-aint-such-thing-as-privacy/comment-page-1#comment-3096</link>
		<dc:creator>Austrotrabant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 18:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm, hm, hm... not quite sure how to put this but ... except for the MobileMe &quot;Find My Iphone&quot; application I don&#039;t find the whole story too thrilling. But maybe that&#039;s because I&#039;ve already got used to the idea of using such services and I was heavily amused about the part of moral justification. Isn&#039;t it just that the speed of connecting information has increased while the transfer costs have sharply decreased. So, same old but much, much faster. 

... and if we don&#039;t want this tick the &quot;don&#039;t show my number in phonebook&quot; option the next time you get a mobile phone... ? 

Its not that the world is evil, its more that we are incredibly lazy protecting our privacy. So shouldn&#039;t we stop blaming our &quot;Big Brother&quot; and our &quot;Little Sister&quot;, but to look into the mirror to see that we are responsible for that ourselves? (they call that idea of &quot;empowerment&quot;, as opposed to the general principle of &quot;overwhelming self-pity&quot;) 

PS: I miss you on Facebook :( 
PPS: Having an iPhone and complaining about privacy issues somehow doesn&#039;t go together anyway, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm, hm, hm&#8230; not quite sure how to put this but &#8230; except for the MobileMe &#8220;Find My Iphone&#8221; application I don&#8217;t find the whole story too thrilling. But maybe that&#8217;s because I&#8217;ve already got used to the idea of using such services and I was heavily amused about the part of moral justification. Isn&#8217;t it just that the speed of connecting information has increased while the transfer costs have sharply decreased. So, same old but much, much faster. </p>
<p>&#8230; and if we don&#8217;t want this tick the &#8220;don&#8217;t show my number in phonebook&#8221; option the next time you get a mobile phone&#8230; ? </p>
<p>Its not that the world is evil, its more that we are incredibly lazy protecting our privacy. So shouldn&#8217;t we stop blaming our &#8220;Big Brother&#8221; and our &#8220;Little Sister&#8221;, but to look into the mirror to see that we are responsible for that ourselves? (they call that idea of &#8220;empowerment&#8221;, as opposed to the general principle of &#8220;overwhelming self-pity&#8221;) </p>
<p>PS: I miss you on Facebook <img src='http://www.technollama.co.uk/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
PPS: Having an iPhone and complaining about privacy issues somehow doesn&#8217;t go together anyway, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Ducker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Ducker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re a star!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re a star!</p>
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		<title>By: Andres</title>
		<link>http://www.technollama.co.uk/there-aint-such-thing-as-privacy/comment-page-1#comment-3093</link>
		<dc:creator>Andres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 11:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Installed!</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew Ducker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Ducker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 09:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re living in a nascent Transparent Society:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Transparent_Society

It&#039;s going to be painful and difficult until we work our way through it and establish new social norms.  Personally, it makes me very happy :-&gt;

Additionally - any intention of installing this addin, so I can see replies?
http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/subscribe-to-comments/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re living in a nascent Transparent Society:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Transparent_Society" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Transparent_Society</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s going to be painful and difficult until we work our way through it and establish new social norms.  Personally, it makes me very happy :-&gt;</p>
<p>Additionally &#8211; any intention of installing this addin, so I can see replies?<br />
<a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/subscribe-to-comments/" rel="nofollow">http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/subscribe-to-comments/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Leo Arais</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leo Arais</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 07:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I give google my search history so it can return more relevant results to me.
An I give last.fm my playlists so it can suggest music that I might like.

The problem comes when my data is used for things that I haven&#039;t agreed with. Or that I didn&#039;t notice I agreed with.

Someday I will receive a call from a vendor and the background music is going to be a pearl jam song. I&#039;ll buy whatever he&#039;s selling. That sucks, and it is the least harmful scenario.

Does the law enforce that they don&#039;t sell our data or use it for hidden purposes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I give google my search history so it can return more relevant results to me.<br />
An I give last.fm my playlists so it can suggest music that I might like.</p>
<p>The problem comes when my data is used for things that I haven&#8217;t agreed with. Or that I didn&#8217;t notice I agreed with.</p>
<p>Someday I will receive a call from a vendor and the background music is going to be a pearl jam song. I&#8217;ll buy whatever he&#8217;s selling. That sucks, and it is the least harmful scenario.</p>
<p>Does the law enforce that they don&#8217;t sell our data or use it for hidden purposes?</p>
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		<title>By: rw</title>
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		<dc:creator>rw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 21:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Granted the ease in which personal information can be collected through technologies such as IPhones, internet etc. it is precisely the debate which the European Commission is looking into with the use of Privacy enhancing technologies to discourage the accumulation of personal information in the first instance (http://ec.europa.eu/justice_home/fsj/privacy/studies/priv-enhancing_en.htm).  A good example is that users have now started to use search engines such as Ixquick, but even then it is questionable how many will go all the way to guard their privacy through such search engines. Perhaps Regan&#039;s view that privacy is not an individualistic concept but a &quot;common value&quot;; &quot;public value&quot; and a &quot;collective value&quot; ought to be revisited again. RW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Granted the ease in which personal information can be collected through technologies such as IPhones, internet etc. it is precisely the debate which the European Commission is looking into with the use of Privacy enhancing technologies to discourage the accumulation of personal information in the first instance (<a href="http://ec.europa.eu/justice_home/fsj/privacy/studies/priv-enhancing_en.htm" rel="nofollow">http://ec.europa.eu/justice_home/fsj/privacy/studies/priv-enhancing_en.htm</a>).  A good example is that users have now started to use search engines such as Ixquick, but even then it is questionable how many will go all the way to guard their privacy through such search engines. Perhaps Regan&#8217;s view that privacy is not an individualistic concept but a &#8220;common value&#8221;; &#8220;public value&#8221; and a &#8220;collective value&#8221; ought to be revisited again. RW</p>
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